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Old 17-05-08, 04:46 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi all,

long time reader, but new poster. I got a question for everyone here.

How quickly do players actually improve?. I know that things like quality of training facilities, coaching, game time, etc all effect how quickly a player will improve but I am curious to know how quickly.

I am currently playing Chelsea and I admit it, im "soft cheating" through the use of those scout utilities. Given my sides top facilities and i've used the top coaches thing to get mostly 7 star coaches, would much would an average young footballer on average improve if

a) played regually, or
b) left with the reserve side
c) loaned out to another club
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Well i play as spurs mostly.

For youth especially good ones.. I just loan them out to Feeder Clubs after 2 season of learning under my Senior Squad.

Within 3 or 4 season on loan he would be great.
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I find that when i sign young players, who perhaps arnt up to the premier league standard, i put them in the reserves for maybe 1 season, and they become good. If you buy young players who have great potential, they should live up to it and become good/great after one season in the reserves!!

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Hi all, just bumping this thread up cause im curious to see a little more discussion.
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I'll telly you what I've done with Thiago in my Tottenham game. I signed him for £6M from Baraca in 2008-09 season, and set him to "learn from" Tom Huddlestone and Andrey Arshavin in order to gain the following PPMs:
Shoots from distance
Tries killer balls often
Runs with ball through centre
Gets forward often

Unfortunately, he refused to learn from either of them or anyone else I had with those PPMs. I eventually got him to learn 'Shoots from distance' from Lorik Cana, but that was it.

For that year he played in my reserves doing reasonably well, and in the summer a number of loan offers came in, so I sent him out to Wigan where he played 33 games, scored twice and got an assist. The next season he spent at Reading, played 28, scored 5 and got two assists.

Last year, he finally made his competetive debut for my first team, when Javi Martinez was out for three months with injury. In total he started 14 league games, got on the scoresheet 5 times. 2 assists and 2 MOM performances. He also came on as sub another 9 times but for no more than 20 minutes any match - I don't like messing with my CM mid-game.

In terms of Stats just about everything important for a CM has risen by a rate of 0.5 - 2 points per year. I can't remember what his stats were at the start, and didn't take a screenshot, but now a few important ones are:
Dribbling: 17
Finishing: 13
First Touch: 17
Long shots: 15
Passing: 16
Technique: 16
Creativity: 17
Decisions: 16
Off the ball: 16

Not bad for a 20 year old. I'm using an edited version of Tug's training schedule for him, with 7 star coaches in everything now, but it was about 5-6 stars when he arrived.

A couple of things worth noting when loaning someone out. If they're young (16 - 19), it's not always preferable for them to play every game. They could burn-out, so to speak, they can peak and reach their potential too young, then drop off. In truth had I known he'd play 33 games for Wigan, I'd not have loaned Thiago to them. Just check whether he'll be a "valuable member of the first team" or "act as cover for the first team" then choose accordingly.

Also it's better for them to get first-team experience with you than on loan. You can tutor them, and they'll be using your (hopefully better) training facilities. Even of this means they'll play fewer games. Since you're Chelsea, they'll be a number of game sthat you've won by half-time. Bring on some players then, and see how they do. If needs be you can always loan them out in january.

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