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Please enjoy your stay on FMFormation! | | » FMF's DB Update | Last public release: 7 February 2008 v1.0 Last beta version: (6 February 2008) v8.0.3b Become a Donator! | | | View Poll Results: What is causing Liverpool's strange form? | | The players aren't good enough |    | 8 | 27.59% | | Rafa Benitez can't manage for toffee |    | 10 | 34.48% | | It's the owners fault |    | 7 | 24.14% | | Some competitions are more important than others |    | 4 | 13.79% |  | | 20-02-08, 01:31 PM | #1 (permalink) | | Aut viam inveniam aut faciam Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hull Posts: 1,236 Thanks: 14 Thanked 132 Times in 42 Posts | What the heck is going on at Liverpool? I'm a neutral and couldnt really care if Liverpool win anything or not. But I am a football fan, and am very intrested in the situation at Liverpool. The FA cup for example, surely that was a realistic an for them, and yet look at the Havant game. Then they go out against Barnsley. And then somehow they beat a very solid Inter team. So, is it just about the players Benitez brings in? Are his backup players just not good enough? Remember the team against Barnsley had 10 international players in it. Is it Benitez himself? Deos he not care about anything except Europe? Im sure there are many possible reasons for this bizarre form, but I want to know your opinions. | | | | 20-02-08, 01:56 PM | #2 (permalink) | | Touted as a new David Ginola: Im an FMF'er, Not a movie star Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: wiltshire Posts: 1,689 Thanks: 227 Thanked 378 Times in 356 Posts | Benitez is a fairly good manager, but his choice of signings are very odd sometimes. Add this to his dubious squad rotataion system and its no wonder they are struggling to reach their potential. I don't think he will be there very much longer somehow. | | | | | 20-02-08, 02:18 PM | #3 (permalink) | | FmF Smurf Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Nethelands Posts: 1,868 Thanks: 59 Thanked 139 Times in 91 Posts | Benitez is good for l'pool i think its all the talk about new owners and stuff like that . It distracts the players some how | | | | | 20-02-08, 02:21 PM | #4 (permalink) | | FMF Donater/ FMF Police Co-Chief Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Guildford Posts: 740 Thanks: 97 Thanked 104 Times in 100 Posts | rafa is rubbish and has no future at liverpool :D | Thanks Liveru | C'Mon FCZ | | | 20-02-08, 02:23 PM | #5 (permalink) | | Scout For FMF's DB Update Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mississauga, near Toronto Posts: 1,622 Thanks: 212 Thanked 222 Times in 184 Posts | i agree with veg if we continued liek we started theres no doubt we will be 1st now, and still in at least 1 cup competition but the owners have shut up, and after the sunderland and chelsea games we wouldve expected to win against barnsley, but if it wasnt for luke steele we would have, and atleast 3-0 look in liverpools recent results, whenever they have a bad game, the next game they automatically play 5x better its good, i just hope we played 5x better every game :) | | | | 20-02-08, 02:34 PM | #6 (permalink) | | Important First Team Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Adelaide Posts: 637 Thanks: 49 Thanked 68 Times in 68 Posts | Bah i blame rafas rotation policy lol. Theres rotatign your squad to keep guys from getting tired and from increasign the chance of nigglign injuries becoem worse, but rafa just goes over board. That doesn't matter though cause your crappers anyway  | Cheers Spanish | | | 20-02-08, 02:43 PM | #7 (permalink) | | FMF Donator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Liverpool Posts: 71 Thanks: 11 Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts | Not enough poll options hic Although imo board distractions is no excuse, 80 grand a week and you cannot concentrate on your job? Absolute b********! Supporters are paying through the nose to come and support their beloved team and players cannot give 100%? Even if Rafa has lost the loyalty/support of the players the players should not be letting fans down by underperforming..   | | | | | 20-02-08, 04:35 PM | #8 (permalink) | | FMF Donator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: In a house Posts: 642 Thanks: 14 Thanked 20 Times in 17 Posts | rafas thought he brought the players that arent perfoming he spent the millions and moans that hes not getting more and he the one that said the premiership was there target this year well he missed that one by so much hes in danger of missing europe. Worried about new owners is another excuse there all millionares and all gruanteed jobs even if not with liverpool and if they are worried its Rafas job to mange the players that was hes employed to do, some might need a kick up the bum some may need arm around there shoulder that what he should be doing. | | | | | 20-02-08, 04:56 PM | #9 (permalink) | | Used In Squad Rotation Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 440 Thanks: 26 Thanked 51 Times in 38 Posts | Strange how last year we managed to get a champions league run together, and a premiership 3rd spot. ye sthis year, we are 5 points behind with a game in hand Hicks suddenly comes public with some ridiculous comments about Klinsman, Taking money from LFc to put in Texas rangers, and benitez having enough money, and we go a month without getting very many points. Just a bit strange. | natural (adj.) Definitions a. Not acquired; inherent. b. Having a particular character by nature. c. Not produced or changed artificially; not conditioned. d. Characterized by spontaneity and freedom from artificiality, affectation, or inhibitions. e. FOWLER | | | 20-02-08, 05:25 PM | #10 (permalink) | | Important First Team Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Basingstoke Posts: 760 Thanks: 82 Thanked 122 Times in 115 Posts | i think its the owners fault but i do think liverpool should stick to a team or something like that instead of rotating all the time | Current Game: Arsenal (2012/2013) 2007/2008: 3rd In Premiership, League Cup Winner & Champions League Winner 2008/2009:1st In Premiership, World Club Championship Winner & Super Cup Winner 2009/2010: 1st In Premiership, League Cup Winners, FA Cup Winners 2010/2011: 1st In Premiership, Champions League Winner & Community Shield Winner 2011/2012: 1st In Premiership, Super Cup, FA Cup, World Club Championship | | | 20-02-08, 05:43 PM | #11 (permalink) | | FMF DB Update Scout & FMF Police Chief Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Knaresborough Posts: 2,727 Thanks: 712 Thanked 234 Times in 193 Posts | You cannot blame it on the owners because you've had problems for a while now! For a team who are so called title contenders each year and one of the best in the world, you dont have enough world class or quality players to compete for the Premier League title, and as for doing well in Europe, it is because it is so different to the English game and therefore different tactics are required and Liverpool do well. However, no Premier League title ever and yer you have won 5 European Titles, but who cares, coz most of them happened before any of you were born, and you all need to be less arrogant and stop living off your history, coz people only care about now!!!!!1 | My Crazy Season - Click My Sig! A massive thanks to Ap, I really appreciate the awesome effort thats been put into this! Credit to Dargo, GFX Project Winner 2007 Leader & Co-Founder of the FMF Police! T.H aka Spuds, Chris aka Turnip, Neil aka Nuts, Graham aka Felix and Pale aka Crabs! | | | 20-02-08, 05:45 PM | #12 (permalink) | | Used In Squad Rotation Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 440 Thanks: 26 Thanked 51 Times in 38 Posts | Quote: Originally Posted by T.H You cannot blame it on the owners because you've had problems for a while now! For a team who are so called title contenders each year and one of the best in the world, you dont have enough world class or quality players to compete for the Premier League title, and as for doing well in Europe, it is because it is so different to the English game and therefore different tactics are required and Liverpool do well. However, no Premier League title ever and yer you have won 5 European Titles, but who cares, coz most of them happened before any of you were born, and you all need to be less arrogant and stop living off your history, coz people only care about now!!!!!1 | DId you not read my post By the way, I cant stand you sky babies. | natural (adj.) Definitions a. Not acquired; inherent. b. Having a particular character by nature. c. Not produced or changed artificially; not conditioned. d. Characterized by spontaneity and freedom from artificiality, affectation, or inhibitions. e. FOWLER | | | 20-02-08, 06:10 PM | #13 (permalink) | | vBookie Team, Member of the Ozza Family Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cheshire Posts: 2,254 Thanks: 540 Thanked 330 Times in 269 Posts | The players clearly aren't good enough, they rely on Gerrard and Torres. Without them they would be nothing, maybe a top 10 side at best. | | | | 20-02-08, 06:20 PM | #14 (permalink) | | Used In Squad Rotation Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 440 Thanks: 26 Thanked 51 Times in 38 Posts | The part of our team that isnt good enough is down the sides A spine of Reina, Carragher, Agger, Mascherano, Gerrard, Torres is good enough to challenge. Once we get some fullbacks and wingers. Then we will see what happens | natural (adj.) Definitions a. Not acquired; inherent. b. Having a particular character by nature. c. Not produced or changed artificially; not conditioned. d. Characterized by spontaneity and freedom from artificiality, affectation, or inhibitions. e. FOWLER | | | 20-02-08, 08:46 PM | #15 (permalink) | | FMF DB Update Scout & FMF Police Chief Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Knaresborough Posts: 2,727 Thanks: 712 Thanked 234 Times in 193 Posts | Yer, more dispointment and another crap season | My Crazy Season - Click My Sig! A massive thanks to Ap, I really appreciate the awesome effort thats been put into this! Credit to Dargo, GFX Project Winner 2007 Leader & Co-Founder of the FMF Police! T.H aka Spuds, Chris aka Turnip, Neil aka Nuts, Graham aka Felix and Pale aka Crabs! | | | 20-02-08, 11:24 PM | #16 (permalink) | | Important First Team Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Adelaide Posts: 637 Thanks: 49 Thanked 68 Times in 68 Posts | i second that  | Cheers Spanish | | | 21-02-08, 01:32 AM | #17 (permalink) | | Scout For FMF's DB Update Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mississauga, near Toronto Posts: 1,622 Thanks: 212 Thanked 222 Times in 184 Posts | we have a spine, and we need some real wingers, if kewell and pennant play like they can consistently, then its there for the taking | | | | 21-02-08, 01:53 AM | #18 (permalink) | | Important First Team Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Banda Aceh,Republik Indonesia Posts: 879 Thanks: 19 Thanked 44 Times in 38 Posts | yeah.liverpool need super duper winger......................but i think leto good enough....give him a chance | | | | 21-02-08, 02:20 AM | #19 (permalink) | | Scout For FMF's DB Update Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mississauga, near Toronto Posts: 1,622 Thanks: 212 Thanked 222 Times in 184 Posts | he had a chance at the start of the season he has potential but he is not good enough now babel has taken his chance, he is good on either flank tho he an only cross with is right foot, he will make a good striker as well | | | | 21-02-08, 06:10 AM | #20 (permalink) | | Important First Team Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Adelaide Posts: 637 Thanks: 49 Thanked 68 Times in 68 Posts | Get rid of Hyppia, Aurelio, Finnan, Veronin(he works mega hard and does everything he can but he aint good enough in scoring) and Itandje, why didnt rafa get carson to stay, im sure he would of if he genuinley said u can geta spot if u play well and actualluy give him a chance | Cheers Spanish | | |  | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is On | | | | | |